October 11th, 2011
stfuconservatives:

cognitivedissonance:

Submitted by: Shane Moore
Okay, I’m sick of people acting like these occupy people are a bunch of heroes. They’re a bunch of lazyass pretend hippies who don’t wanna work.
Can’t get a job? Fine, start mowing lawns, walking dogs, etc. Do SOMETHING other than trying to mooch off my hard earned money. I don’t get health insurance at my job. I don’t expect someone to just hand it to me like they’re greatful I work for them. I should be greatful to THEM for a job. There are jobs. You know how to get money from the rich? WORK FOR THEM. 
Go to Georgia. There’s a whole bunch of rotting crops since they got the illegals to leave. Now there’s jobs for AMERICANS who won’t take them up on it because they think they’re too good for farm work. http://forums.hannity.com/showthread.php?t=2270871
I am supposed to feel sorry for people who won’t work, made bad decisions by buying too much house, getting a worthless degree etc.? Sorry, keep your socialism and your change and I’ll keep my money. If you want to live in a socialist country, go try North Korea on for size. 
Meg, of Cognitive Dissonance:
Wow, that’s cute and callous. You assume there’s some mythical land with jobs aplenty for the taking. All you have to do is apply. Uh-huh.


Actually, I’m going to do you a favor and not post your email address. I’m just going to factcheck this a little.
First off, here’s the official list of demands from the Occupy Wall Street General Assembly. I see nothing in there about being able to not work ever again while “mooching” money off of Shane Moore or anyone else. 
Also, there are about four people actively seeking work to every job that’s available. Some estimate it’s higher than that. Employers are finding difficulty with hiring candidates with the qualifications they’re seeking. As the Business Insider article details in the above link, there’s a gap between finding skilled workers and those looking for work:

Employers say they’re having trouble finding applicants who fit the requirements for open positions. In a recent survey by the Ewing Marion Kauffman Foundation, 40 percent of the members of the Inc. 500 (a group of the fastest-growing companies in the United States) reported that the biggest impediment to growing their companies was “finding qualified people.”
“That clearly speaks to the skills gap that exists,” says Thom Ruhe, director of entrepreneurship for the Ewing Marion Kauffman Foundation. “So we’ve got this paradigm of millions that are unemployed, yet there are literally hundreds of thousands of jobs that are available if we had the right skilled labor to put there, so there’s a challenge.”

Note he says “millions unemployed” but “hundreds of thousands of jobs” are available. So even if finding skilled workers wasn’t an issue, there would not be enough jobs to go around.
This leads to underemployment - essentially, people who want to work full time, but cannot find full time work. As Bloomberg explains: “More Americans who would like a full-time job are settling for part-time work instead. They are counted in the underemployment rate, which increased to 16.5 percent, the highest this year, from 16.2 percent. The number of people working part-time for ‘economic reasons’ jumped 444,000 to 9.3 million.”
How do we get skilled workers? Affordable education is crucial. Right now, the class of 2011 will be the most indebted class to graduate college. Wages have not kept up with the cost of education, health care, housing, etc. This is all while corporations are posting record profits. We’re in trouble all around.
It’s not as simple as you think. You can’t just say “GET A JOB ASSHOLE” and that makes it so. Not with the way the economy is now. 

The average worker is unemployed for approximately 40 weeks. That’s nearly a year. 
As for Georgia, if the crops are already rotting, there’s nothing that can be done. And the law did not just get rid of undocumented workers, jackass. People who are in the country legally also left. You know why? If you live in fear of being hassled or arrested for not having proper documentation on you at ALL times, you might take off too.
And North Korea is not socialist. The -isms aren’t all the same thing. North Korea is, on a good day, a one-man dictatorship ruling a communist state. On a bad day, it’s a murderous, infantile tyrant’s playground. You want socialism? Try Sweden. It sounds horrific:

Sweden has an extensive child-care system that guarantees a place for all young children ages two through six in a public day-care facility. From ages seven to 16, children participate in compulsory education. After completing the ninth grade, 90% attend upper secondary school for either academic or technical education.  Swedes benefit from an extensive social welfare system, which provides childcare and maternity and paternity leave, a ceiling on health care costs, old-age pensions, and sick leave, among other benefits. Parents are entitled to a total of 480 days’ paid leave at 80% of a government-determined salary cap between birth and the child’s eighth birthday. The parents may split those days however they wish, but 60 of the days are reserved specifically for the father. 

As for the rest of your post, there’s really no point in addressing it. You sound as if you think we should grovel in gratitude for jobs that pay less than a living wage. Instead of wishing we were all at your level and had no benefits, why not wish for health care for all? Countries with socialized medicine spend far less of a proportional amount of GDP on health care than we do. One theory is better access to a doctor leads to more preventive care, which then stops minor issues from becoming major ones. 
Like it or not, you are in the 99%. It’s not lazy socialists like you picture. It’s this man. And this woman. And those of us in Casper, Wyoming. I will continue to fight for you to have the right to a decent living wage, a job with benefits, affordable education and health care, and congressmen who represent We the People and not corporations. You can continue ranting on the Hannity forums. We’ll be out there so you don’t have to, Shane.
Cheers,
Meg

Nothing to add to this awesomeness.
-Joe

stfuconservatives:

cognitivedissonance:

Submitted by: Shane Moore

Okay, I’m sick of people acting like these occupy people are a bunch of heroes. They’re a bunch of lazyass pretend hippies who don’t wanna work.

Can’t get a job? Fine, start mowing lawns, walking dogs, etc. Do SOMETHING other than trying to mooch off my hard earned money. I don’t get health insurance at my job. I don’t expect someone to just hand it to me like they’re greatful I work for them. I should be greatful to THEM for a job. There are jobs. You know how to get money from the rich? WORK FOR THEM. 

Go to Georgia. There’s a whole bunch of rotting crops since they got the illegals to leave. Now there’s jobs for AMERICANS who won’t take them up on it because they think they’re too good for farm work. http://forums.hannity.com/showthread.php?t=2270871

I am supposed to feel sorry for people who won’t work, made bad decisions by buying too much house, getting a worthless degree etc.? Sorry, keep your socialism and your change and I’ll keep my money. If you want to live in a socialist country, go try North Korea on for size. 

Meg, of Cognitive Dissonance:

Wow, that’s cute and callous. You assume there’s some mythical land with jobs aplenty for the taking. All you have to do is apply. Uh-huh.

Actually, I’m going to do you a favor and not post your email address. I’m just going to factcheck this a little.

First off, here’s the official list of demands from the Occupy Wall Street General Assembly. I see nothing in there about being able to not work ever again while “mooching” money off of Shane Moore or anyone else. 

Also, there are about four people actively seeking work to every job that’s available. Some estimate it’s higher than that. Employers are finding difficulty with hiring candidates with the qualifications they’re seeking. As the Business Insider article details in the above link, there’s a gap between finding skilled workers and those looking for work:

Employers say they’re having trouble finding applicants who fit the requirements for open positions. In a recent survey by the Ewing Marion Kauffman Foundation, 40 percent of the members of the Inc. 500 (a group of the fastest-growing companies in the United States) reported that the biggest impediment to growing their companies was “finding qualified people.”

“That clearly speaks to the skills gap that exists,” says Thom Ruhe, director of entrepreneurship for the Ewing Marion Kauffman Foundation. “So we’ve got this paradigm of millions that are unemployed, yet there are literally hundreds of thousands of jobs that are available if we had the right skilled labor to put there, so there’s a challenge.”

Note he says “millions unemployed” but “hundreds of thousands of jobs” are available. So even if finding skilled workers wasn’t an issue, there would not be enough jobs to go around.

This leads to underemployment - essentially, people who want to work full time, but cannot find full time work. As Bloomberg explains: “More Americans who would like a full-time job are settling for part-time work instead. They are counted in the underemployment rate, which increased to 16.5 percent, the highest this year, from 16.2 percent. The number of people working part-time for ‘economic reasons’ jumped 444,000 to 9.3 million.”

How do we get skilled workers? Affordable education is crucial. Right now, the class of 2011 will be the most indebted class to graduate college. Wages have not kept up with the cost of education, health care, housing, etc. This is all while corporations are posting record profits. We’re in trouble all around.

It’s not as simple as you think. You can’t just say “GET A JOB ASSHOLE” and that makes it so. Not with the way the economy is now. 

The average worker is unemployed for approximately 40 weeks. That’s nearly a year. 

As for Georgia, if the crops are already rotting, there’s nothing that can be done. And the law did not just get rid of undocumented workers, jackass. People who are in the country legally also left. You know why? If you live in fear of being hassled or arrested for not having proper documentation on you at ALL times, you might take off too.

And North Korea is not socialist. The -isms aren’t all the same thing. North Korea is, on a good day, a one-man dictatorship ruling a communist state. On a bad day, it’s a murderous, infantile tyrant’s playground. You want socialism? Try Sweden. It sounds horrific:

Sweden has an extensive child-care system that guarantees a place for all young children ages two through six in a public day-care facility. From ages seven to 16, children participate in compulsory education. After completing the ninth grade, 90% attend upper secondary school for either academic or technical education. Swedes benefit from an extensive social welfare system, which provides childcare and maternity and paternity leave, a ceiling on health care costs, old-age pensions, and sick leave, among other benefits. Parents are entitled to a total of 480 days’ paid leave at 80% of a government-determined salary cap between birth and the child’s eighth birthday. The parents may split those days however they wish, but 60 of the days are reserved specifically for the father. 

As for the rest of your post, there’s really no point in addressing it. You sound as if you think we should grovel in gratitude for jobs that pay less than a living wage. Instead of wishing we were all at your level and had no benefits, why not wish for health care for all? Countries with socialized medicine spend far less of a proportional amount of GDP on health care than we do. One theory is better access to a doctor leads to more preventive care, which then stops minor issues from becoming major ones. 

Like it or not, you are in the 99%. It’s not lazy socialists like you picture. It’s this man. And this woman. And those of us in Casper, Wyoming. I will continue to fight for you to have the right to a decent living wage, a job with benefits, affordable education and health care, and congressmen who represent We the People and not corporations. You can continue ranting on the Hannity forums. We’ll be out there so you don’t have to, Shane.

Cheers,

Meg

Nothing to add to this awesomeness.

-Joe

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letterstomycountry:

leftish:

THIS PHOTO IS GOING VIRAL ON FACEBOOK RIGHT NOW!
Okay, this is truly funny, however, all of these corporations have been FOISTED upon us, we did not CHOOSE them…and we also do not necessarily APPROVE of the greed that these corporations exhibit - they are our ONLY option for a lot of the products they offer, because they have literally CRUSHED all the competition.  Just because we use their products does not mean that we LIKE the way these Corporations operate!!

The irony is well-placed, but the argument on display in this photo fails.  
The argument that “patronage negates grievance” has always been false.  This is the same sort of empty logic that is often thrown at Libertarians when they are accused of using public roads, accepting social security, etc.  Just because you participate in an organized system doesn’t mean you have to be happy with it.
It would be the same as telling a child that they shouldn’t entreat their alcoholic father to quit drinking for the benefit of the family, since the child takes the benefit of the father’s gainful employment.  Just because you utilize a service doesn’t mean you can’t demand changes to improve it.

letterstomycountry:

leftish:

THIS PHOTO IS GOING VIRAL ON FACEBOOK RIGHT NOW!

Okay, this is truly funny, however, all of these corporations have been FOISTED upon us, we did not CHOOSE them…and we also do not necessarily APPROVE of the greed that these corporations exhibit - they are our ONLY option for a lot of the products they offer, because they have literally CRUSHED all the competition.  Just because we use their products does not mean that we LIKE the way these Corporations operate!!

The irony is well-placed, but the argument on display in this photo fails.  

The argument that “patronage negates grievance” has always been false.  This is the same sort of empty logic that is often thrown at Libertarians when they are accused of using public roads, accepting social security, etc.  Just because you participate in an organized system doesn’t mean you have to be happy with it.

It would be the same as telling a child that they shouldn’t entreat their alcoholic father to quit drinking for the benefit of the family, since the child takes the benefit of the father’s gainful employment.  Just because you utilize a service doesn’t mean you can’t demand changes to improve it.

October 9th, 2011

rabbleprochoice:

stfuprolife:

What Pro-Life Really Means

I like this. Watch it and nod. I did.

Love,

Rabble

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We’re going to close the unproductive tax loopholes that have allowed some of the truly wealthy to avoid paying their fair share. In theory, some of those loopholes were understandable, but in practice they sometimes made it possible for millionaires to pay nothing, while a bus driver was paying 10 percent of his salary, and that’s crazy. It’s time we stopped it.
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stfuconservatives:

blissandzen:

letterstomycountry:

shihtzuman:

A study on voter fraud pushed by Maine Republicans concluded that there is absolutely no evidence of student voter fraud in the state — but the GOP has pledged to crack down on it anyway. Like conservative state legislatures across the country, Maine Republicans have been pushing a Voter ID law, ostensibly to prevent non-existent voter fraud. As ThinkProgress has documented, these laws are a transparent attempt to disenfranchise Democratic voters, especially students, the poor, and minorities.

Are honest, good-faith Conservatives really confused anymore as to why the Left accuses the GOP of being both anti-scientific and divorced from reality?  Particularly when their policy choices are antithetical to studies that the GOP themselves are submitting to the public?

I suppose we’d have to track down one of the honest, good-faith Conservatives and ask. But I wouldn’t know where to look. Can anybody name one?

There is no mass voter fraud in America, it is an outright lie. It is an excuse to reinstate voting taxes and in general suppress the votes of non-rich non-aged non-white people. There is no argument to be had, it’s completely, truthfully, and utterly what the right is doing.

-Joe

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October 7th, 2011

shortformblog:

kateoplis:

Our mayor and our police

With Occupy Portland, the mayor and police take part, rather than antagonizing … fascinating.

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letterstomycountry:

It appears that, back in 2006, Mexican authorities made a startling discovery: several large U.S. banks were helping Mexican Cartels launder huge sums of money.  Check it out:

Just before sunset on April 10, 2006, a DC-9 jet landed at the international airport in the port city of Ciudad del Carmen, 500 miles east of Mexico City. As soldiers on the ground approached the plane, the crew tried to shoo them away, saying there was a dangerous oil leak. So the troops grew suspicious and searched the jet.

They found 128 black suitcases, packed with 5.7 tons of cocaine, valued at $100 million. The stash was supposed to have been delivered from Caracas to drug traffickers in Toluca, near Mexico City, Mexican prosecutors later found. Law enforcement officials also discovered something else.

The smugglers had bought the DC-9 with laundered funds they transferred through two of the biggest banks in the U.S.: Wachovia Corp. and Bank of America Corp., Bloomberg Markets magazine reports in its August 2010 issue.

This was no isolated incident. Wachovia, it turns out, had made a habit of helping move money for Mexican drug smugglers. Wells Fargo & Co., which bought Wachovia in 2008, has admitted in court that its unit failed to monitor and report suspected money laundering by narcotics traffickers — including the cash used to buy four planes that shipped a total of 22 tons of cocaine.

The admission came in an agreement that Charlotte, North Carolina-based Wachovia struck with federal prosecutors in March, and it sheds light on the largely undocumented role of U.S. banks in contributing to the violent drug trade that has convulsed Mexico for the past four years.

This is, of course, a story about criminality among the Banking Class that Occupy Wall Street types will no doubt eat up.  But think about this outside the box: this is an asymmetrical dimension to the War on Drugs.  The big banks have an interest in keeping drugs illegal because it is in their financial interest to allow these large transactions to take place unhindered.  And it wasn’t just one or two banks that were doing this.  A handful of our nation’s largest banks were allowing this to happen.

The shocking thing is that there are laws which mandate heightened scrutiny of large financial transactions at private banking institutions.  Officials at these large banks were no doubt aware of this.  These banks hire armies of very smart people: accountants, lawyers, economists, and investment managers whose job is to keep an eye on these things (the cost of employing these people is part of what businesses refer to when they talk about “compliance costs”).  That suggests this wasn’t simply “blatant disregard.”  Nobody was asleep at the wheel.  And the fact that several large companies were letting this happen suggests they knew exactly what was going on.  In fact, I doubt anything would have changed, had it not been for the fact that Mexican authorities issued a giant “WTF” to the US government after discovering where the money was coming from.

In other words: the War on Drugs isn’t simply about irrational prohibitionists.  It’s also about profit.  The actions of Wells Fargo, Wachovia, and Bank of America in Mexico demonstrate that there’s more people with skin in the game than you would glean from a cursory glance.

October 6th, 2011
The US Department of Labor reported that 1.9% total UI payments for 2001 was attributable to fraud or abuse within the UI program

Welfare fraud - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Only a tiny minority of welfare payments are to fraudulent recipients. As long as the DOJ has monitored welfare fraud, this has been the case.

So why is the myth of the welfare queen and the “scammer” looking for a “free handout” so prominent in our society? TANF provides roughly $300 bucks a month. Medicaid is no health spa. WIC and similar food stamp programs have heavy restrictions and are usually <$100 a month.

Why is it so despicable when a poor family who is marginally employed and can’t find additional labor gets a “handout”, but the fat cats who engineer such inequality without a care go off scot free and are just “exercising personal responsibility”?

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The Welfare Queen is an unstoppable Republican myth. “She has an Escalade, seven babies, no job, lobster for dinner every night, and she’s doing it all on YOUR tax dollars!” Because being poor is awesome, apparently.

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letterstomycountry:

evilteabagger:

thedailywhat:

Ben Warheit.

Bahahahahahahahaha!!!!

Given how notoriously intelligent Octopi are, I bet Octopi could manage risk and avoid overleveraging quite a bit better than human financial analysts have done in the past decade or so.
And besides, they can always pretend to be a Flounder if things go bad.  Fool-proof investment strategy.

letterstomycountry:

evilteabagger:

thedailywhat:

Ben Warheit.

Bahahahahahahahaha!!!!

Given how notoriously intelligent Octopi are, I bet Octopi could manage risk and avoid overleveraging quite a bit better than human financial analysts have done in the past decade or so.

And besides, they can always pretend to be a Flounder if things go bad.  Fool-proof investment strategy.